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    <title>The WELL: inkwell.vue.333: Paul Alexander, MACHIAVELLI'S SHADOW: The Rise and Fall of Karl Rove</title>
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	    #70: John Payne (satyr) Fri 22 Aug 08 08:53
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        He's about as subtle as a coyote, which is to say somewhat so, but not very.
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	    #69:  Tom Howard (tom) Thu 21 Aug 08 09:26
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        Paul, the book is really great -- and frightening.  My earlier
question that must've gotten overlooked is how exactly do you go on
with seeing so closely these machinations (especially coming up on this
election and Rove's control of the $250 million war chest?  You and
Seymour Hersh?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The truly most enlightening thing about your book is how many
egregious mistakes and errors Rove has made in his career.  His &amp;quot;evil&amp;quot;
seems to be so much luck.
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	    #68: My free and simple demeanor set everybody at ease. (pdl) Wed 20 Aug 08 14:55
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        Paul--thanks for spending some time here discussing Machiavelli's Shadow!
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	    #67: Lisa Harris (lrph) Wed 20 Aug 08 12:46
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        Thank you Paul and Patrick for a wonderful two weeks.  Now it is time for us
to turn our attention to a new topic.  You are all welcome to continue here
for as long as you'd like.
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	    #66: Jack King (gjk) Wed 20 Aug 08 07:02
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        I've been loving this book, but the only future one on Rove I would care to
see would be &amp;quot;The Trial of Karl Rove.&amp;quot;
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	    #65: My free and simple demeanor set everybody at ease. (pdl) Wed 20 Aug 08 06:47
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        Paul--if it's possible to divulge, what projects are you working on now?
What articles or books are coming out in the near future?  Are you done with
Rove as a subject or will you focus on him again at some point?
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	    #64: Scott MacFarlane (s-macfarlane) Tue 19 Aug 08 21:17
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        Hmmm.  So stupid is as stupid does...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's a relief, in a perverse, quasi-democratic way.
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	    #63: Paul Alexander (reporter1) Tue 19 Aug 08 20:57
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        I know that much has been made about Bush being little more than a
puppet, but I have to disagree with that assessment. I think that it
was beneficial for Bush to have someone like Rove, who was -- and still
is -- willing to take the fall for his boss. But it has always been my
feeling, from following Bush and people close to him through the
years, that Bush was the one in control. I think he proved that last
summer when he told Rove it was time for him to go. In the end Rove was
not really Bush's brain; he was what he was -- a political adviser who
could easily been gotten rid of. Ultimately, the credit or (more
likely) criticism of the Bush administration will be placed squarely on
not Rove (and others) but Bush, which is the way it should be.
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	    #62: Scott MacFarlane (s-macfarlane) Tue 19 Aug 08 11:44
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        ...but such assessment would involve Freud more than Machiavelli.
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	    #61: David Wilson (dlwilson) Tue 19 Aug 08 11:37
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        That's right!  Could you add to it, Dubya's relationship with and the
influence of his father George HW?
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